tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6307268745114269319.post3045728651257152214..comments2015-09-04T09:43:45.875-07:00Comments on The Tapir Times: An Answer for Everything: How LDS prophets and apostles are completely incapable of silence on issues they don't understand, and why it has cost them their authorityAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12496724499418695012noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6307268745114269319.post-87143576286105347702014-02-27T13:15:14.365-08:002014-02-27T13:15:14.365-08:00I would agree that most if not all of the leadersh...I would agree that most if not all of the leadership actually believe they are divinely called and are acting in good faith. In some ways that actually makes things worse because you end up with zealots in positions of leadership, and they are the ones who feel free to speak their minds as if it is God speaking through them, and wind up teaching their own philosophies.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12496724499418695012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6307268745114269319.post-58542006138039324222014-02-27T10:14:30.663-08:002014-02-27T10:14:30.663-08:00I propose a third scenario that's some combina...I propose a third scenario that's some combination of your first two: they are NOT God's representatives but sincerely believe they are and don't think they are actually making anything up (maybe that's what you meant with scenario 1). I think just about all of church leadership is sincere, but they don't realize that they are no different or better than anyone else at understanding God's will because they were raised to believe that a person in their position actually does have a special calling. The same applies to stake presidents and bishops too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10857264513329949977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6307268745114269319.post-50201161405417583862014-02-27T09:47:49.455-08:002014-02-27T09:47:49.455-08:00This. My friend sent me a general conference talk ...This. My friend sent me a general conference talk on personal revelation because I got a false positive and it is a major contributor to my faith disappearing. The talk said you could tell the difference between a prompting from God and a prompting from Satan by 1) determining if it coincides with God's laws (hi confirmation bias! Also, what about Nephi killing Laban?) or 2) acting on the prompting and judging the fruits of the choice. Profoundly unsatisfying. Michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927329224181619305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6307268745114269319.post-1196053529805494772014-02-27T07:48:23.031-08:002014-02-27T07:48:23.031-08:00Very well written. I sometimes struggle with arti...Very well written. I sometimes struggle with articulating why I left, because it is such a complicated mess of all these topics and then some, but it really boils down to the same thing--prophets haven't taught the truth--ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01524973858509707851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6307268745114269319.post-49355708701172764992014-02-27T06:14:20.212-08:002014-02-27T06:14:20.212-08:00"They are God's representatives, but they..."They are God's representatives, but they can't differentiate true revelation from their own random thoughts and biases."<br /><br />Joseph Smith admitted early on, after failing to sell the copyright to the Book of Mormon, that he wasn't capable of distinguishing between direct revelation from god, and the influence of satan. <br /><br />What good are prophets if they can't even distinguish between direct revelation, literally the only reason their position exists, and direct contact with satan, arguably the exact opposite of revelation from god, much less the difference between speaking directly to god and their own internal musings?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00047898392143186887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6307268745114269319.post-84224933408274390932014-02-27T05:28:36.301-08:002014-02-27T05:28:36.301-08:00Nice post.
The LDS Prophets are great examples of...Nice post. <br />The LDS Prophets are great examples of the 'philosophies of men mingled with scripture." <br />It's nice to not have to bare the weight of always being right; thinking you know EVERYTHING because you have the Holy Ghost as a constant companion. And then when you find out your wrong your mind has to perform gymnastics to resolve the issue so you're always right..... A vicious downward spiral for sure.JoyLovePeaceHappinesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06850584074716551133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6307268745114269319.post-72043818856203875352014-02-27T05:22:50.869-08:002014-02-27T05:22:50.869-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.JoyLovePeaceHappinesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06850584074716551133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6307268745114269319.post-50980079431619261152014-02-27T02:36:06.574-08:002014-02-27T02:36:06.574-08:00Maybe the prophet is useful for a kind of religiou...Maybe the prophet is useful for a kind of religious Nuremberg defense. When the church decides the prophet was speaking as a man on a certain issue, you can say, "It's not my fault I was wrong. I was just believing what I was ordered to believe."<br /><br />I just compared Mormons to Nazi war criminals. That might have been a little heavy-handed.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724409661360473452noreply@blogger.com